"Out of Time," R.E.M.'s big breakthrough album came out 25 years ago this month. Seems like a good time to look back at the band's second period, when Berry, Buck, Mills, Stipe moved up to a major label.

This is a follow-up to Dad Rock Ep. 7, which focused on R.E.M.'s I.R.S. years. We even brought back guest fan Justin Gay to continue the conversation started so long ago.

Plus, this episode features the debut of the new Dad Rock theme song, performed by Night Streets (nightstreets.bandcamp.com).

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