The Ringer's Joe House connects with Jefferson's Bourbon cofounder Trey Zoeller to discuss his unique bourbon experiments including new kinds of barrels, Trey’s most perilous voyage to date, and how recreating 19th-century trade routes can completely transform the product (2:55). Then House links up with Juliet Litman for a classic ‘House of Carbs’ Food News (40:05).

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