Nick is joined again by guest Ethan Taku. They talk about the elements of the "Babe Phase", Ethan plays some emotional piano for us and we analyse an audio story that Tadgh Gunter recorded in Year 5 for school. This episode is more chilled as Ethan and I woke up early in the morning to record so if you need a podcast to sooth you to sleep, it's probably not this one but it works anyway.

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