This week's regular Empire Podcast featured two interviews that were just too darn long, and just too much darn interview, to fit into the show. So we decided to bring you them both as specials this weekend. First up is an extended interview with Josh Lucas, the star of The Secret: Dare To Dream, which is now available to rent on PVOD. Here, he and Chris Hewitt talk about that movie, and how its principles appealed to Josh, plus how he's coping with lockdown, how Ang Lee continues to help him long after they worked together on Hulk, and how Josh came to terms with some of his higher-profile flops, like Poseidon and Stealth. It's a candid, funny, interesting chat, and we hope you enjoy.