Holly and Kate have SPECIAL GUESTS this week: it's the lovely boys from Bitsocket! When we started this podcast, they were really nice to us. After this episode, they might not be any more. Want to know why? Have a listen!

Oh and we should probably mention that Bitsocket are AWARD-WINNING PODCASTERS NOW (GMAs, 2015, about 5 hours after we recorded) so we're totally gonna ride off the back of that one.

(the audio quality is a bit weird on this one - apologies for all the microphone-bumping and echoeyness. We're noobs, you see, and we're working on it. One day we'll be able to record in a soundproof studio in the basement of our LA mansion. Be patient.) For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy