Winners never quit! Today on the show, David Bazan & Damian continue a 20 year old backstage conversation about punk! Listen in as they discuss the journey that brought David to forming Pedro The Lion. From sneaking listens to Beatles’ records, to the life changing impact of Fugazi, to the seedy sides of the secular & non-secular music businesses: DON’T MISS THIS ONE!
Also, don’t miss Pedro The Lion’s fantastic new album: “Havasu.” Available on streaming services now & CD/LP/CS on Polyvinyl Records.
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Also Touched On:
“Are you Dave?” “Are you Damien”: meeting Jurado
Hearing Fugazi for the first time and it changing everything
Drive Like Jehu 
True prophetic music
Straight Edge and religion
“Why are you dulling the blade?”
Gods and Gurus: The complex personal relationship with Ian MacKaye
Mike Knott
One Blind Pig
The crossover to the secular scene
The rough first tour
The rise of Tooth And Nail Records
Modest Mouse and Seasick Steve

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