Who WAS Johnny Carson? Guest host Mike Pesca will talk to Henry Bushkin about just that. He was Carson's longtime lawyer and fixer. Carson even once called Bushkin his best friend. And Johnny didn't make friends easily. Then later, we revisit Jesse Thorn's conversation with a woman who was part of an entirely different television phenomenon - Friends. Lisa Kudrow will talk about playing the "dumb" one on Friends, but also her real life career in brain science. Plus, Jim DeRogatis talks about how the arty punk band Wire proved that you don't need mega-talent, just some really good ideas. And our friends at the film site The Dissolve will tell you which of the dozens of movies out now are actually worth watching. Lastly, Mike talks about why he's cheering Keith Olbermann's return to sports.

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