In the tsunami of an avalanche of a mudslide of Trump news, it can be hard to wade through the muck to find meaning. With Trump and his Republican allies doing their best to muddy the waters in the lead-up to 2024, the Democrats have their work cut out for them. EJ Dionne of the Washington Post and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General Harry Litman join David to find meaning in the chaos and discuss the future of the former President’s numerous legal battles and their ramifications for the country.

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