This is the most heated Ingredipedia has ever got. Who knew Em and Ben had such strong opposing pepper opinions? There’s also a deep dive into the world’s oldest soft drink Dr Pepper and a multi-faceted exploration of one of the truly great pasta dishes. 

[00:37] Should black pepper be outlawed?
[05:21] Cacio e pepe, two ways
[10:42] WTF is in Dr Pepper?
[15:43] Bring back table-side pepper grinding?

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