Episode 196 - Shane and his good pal Donovan sit in Shane's car shooting the shit while Hail The Sun is on tour in Toronto. The discussion includes how his new band Nova Charisma came about, Donovan's continued sobriety, co-writing with outside people, the demise of Sianvar, writing on a bass guitar (‽), juggling multiple projects and careers - and still not loving police.

Looking for some new music? Check out Mascots - a new awesome pop-punk band from Cincinnati, OH! Their new EP "Butterfly Effect" is out now! Listen to it on Spotify or wherever you get your music and check out mascotsband.bandcamp.com !

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