In this episode, Sarah and Kristen play catch-up and talk about being a guest on a recent Punk Rock Saves Lives PMA livestream. Then, Kristen is joined by Shawna Potter of the band War on Women. They discuss her book, Making Spaces Safer and how to do just that: make spaces safer for women, people of color, etc. They talk about what bystanders to harassment and assault can do to help, and how to help a friend who experiences this. How can we make the punk scene safer? This is a must-listen episode. Song: Touch Me Again by Petrol Girls