Today, the story of an idea. An idea that some people need, others reject, and one that will, ultimately, be hard to let go of. Special Thanks to Carl Zimmer, Eric Turkheimer, Andrea Ganna, Chandler Burr, Jacques Balthazart, Sean Mckeithan, Joe Osmundson, Jennifer Brier, Daniel Levine-Spound, Maddie Sofia, Elie Mystal, Heather Radke


Reported by - Matt KieltyProduced by - Matt KieltyOriginal music and sound design contributed by - Matt Kieltywith mixing help from - Arianne WackFact-checking by - Diane Kelly



Lisa Diamond - Born This Way, TEDx (


Joanna Wuest - Born This Way: Science, Citizenship, and Inequality in the American LGBTQ+ Movement (

Dean Hamer - The Science of Desire: The Search for the Gay Gene and the Biology of Behavior (

Lisa Diamond - Sexual Fluidity: Understanding Women’s Desire and Love (

Edward Stein - The Mismeasure of Desire: The Science, Theory, and Ethics of Sexual Orientation (

Chandler Burr - A Separate Creation: The Search for the Biological Origins of Sexual Orientation (

Jacques Balthazart - The Biology of Homosexuality (

Anne Fausto-Sterling - Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality (

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