On the Gist, Michael Cohen is not a smart guy, and that makes his testimony all the more trustworthy. 

In the interview, Casey Burgat of R Street is here to talk about Sen. Amy Klobuchar’s staff turnover data. Does she seem to churn through staff more than most, or are a few big exits skewing the numbers? And is it so bad to have high turnover anyway?

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