On this episode of Eating Matters, host Jenna Liut and Associate Producer Taylor Lanzet dive into the world of milk with their guest Melanie Dupuis. Melanie discusses how milk grew to be ubiquitous — a staple in the American diet. Melanie, the author of Nature’s Perfect Food, guides us through the religious, political and sociological factors from the past two centuries that paved the way for the industrialization of fluid milk.

Later on the show, we are joined by Liz Vaknin and Shelley Golan, Co-Founders of Our Name Is Farm, this week’s featured startup.